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There are certan moments in history when an economy is propped up by something we don’t want. The biggest example of this is slavery in the 1800s. There was a point at which slavery was propping up the entire world economy. You couldn’t just say “we don’t want to do this anymore, let’s just suck it out of the economy” — the whole economy would collapse (if you did that). But the British Empire, when they decided to abolish slavery, they had to give up 2% of GDP every year for 60 years.

“Yuval Noah Harari and Tristan Harris interviewed by Wired” [50:15 – 51:15]